Trial & Error & Error Podcast
Two work besties thriving in their late 20s, (or attempting to). Relationships, work, family, society expectations... And the return of Lindsay Lohan. You know what they say: ”3rd time’s the charm!” Our goal is to make ”Fetch” happen.
Episodes

Sep 10, 2025
Sep 10, 2025
37 min
Summary
In this episode of the Trial and Error and Error Podcast, the hosts delve into the complexities of office romances, discussing statistics, dynamics, and the cultural implications of workplace relationships. They explore the risks and rewards associated with dating colleagues, the generational differences in attitudes towards office romance, and the impact of gossip and professionalism in the workplace. The conversation emphasizes the importance of maintaining boundaries and professionalism while navigating the often messy world of workplace relationships.
Takeaways
Don't poop where you eat.
Workplace romance is more common than expected.
Gen Z is the most open to workplace relationships.
Office romances can lead to gossip and drama.
The dynamics of workplace relationships can be complicated.
Men and women are viewed differently in office romances.
It's important to maintain professionalism in the workplace.
Gossip can be a significant downside to office romances.
Understanding the risks is crucial before entering a workplace romance.
Keeping relationships discreet can help avoid complications.
Resources:
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/workplace-romance-statistics/; https://www.bamboohr.com/blog/8-workplace-romance-facts-need-know-right-now

Sep 3, 2025
Sep 3, 2025
39 min
Summary
In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, hosts LJ and Ale delve into the complexities of maintaining friendships with ex-partners. They explore the statistics surrounding this phenomenon, discuss the reasons why some people choose to stay friends with their exes, and weigh the pros and cons of such relationships. The conversation also touches on gender dynamics, emotional boundaries, and the impact of these friendships on current relationships. Ultimately, they conclude that while some may find value in these connections, many others advocate for a clean break.
Takeaways
Around 60% of people maintain a friendship with an ex after a breakup.
Friendships with exes can stem from security, practicality, civility, or unresolved romantic desires.
Staying friends due to unresolved romantic desires often leads to negative outcomes.
Practicality and civility are less likely to result in long-term friendships.
Emotional confusion can hinder healing and moving on after a breakup.
Maintaining friendships with exes can complicate new relationships.
Gender dynamics play a role in how friendships with exes are perceived and maintained.
It's important to set boundaries with current partners regarding friendships with exes.
Not all breakups are toxic, and some may allow for healthy friendships later on.
Ultimately, the decision to remain friends with an ex should be based on personal circumstances and emotional health.
Resources
https://www.livescience.com/60057-staying-friends-with-ex-may-work.html
https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/44073-do-americans-stay-friends-with-their-exes-poll
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/valley-girl-brain/201211/sorry-is-why-you-can-t-be-friends-your-ex
Griffith, Rebecca & Gillath, Omri & Zhao, Xian & MARTINEZ, RICHARD. (2017). Staying friends with ex-romantic partners: Predictors, reasons, and outcomes: Friendship with ex-romantic partners. Personal Relationships. 24. 10.1111/pere.12197.

Aug 27, 2025
Aug 27, 2025
29 min
Summary
In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, the hosts delve into the myths surrounding marathon running, exploring its cultural significance, personal experiences, and the psychological aspects of training. They discuss the increasing popularity of marathons, the dangers of overexertion, and the importance of proper training. The conversation also touches on the philosophical insights of Socrates regarding physical training and the balance between setting realistic goals and pushing personal limits. Ultimately, the hosts conclude that while running can provide purpose and community, it is essential to approach it with awareness and preparation.
Takeaways
Running equals death.
You need a proper training plan.
Running can give you purpose and meaning to your life.
Don't do what Pheidippides did. Train.
You shouldn't push yourself.
Sources:
https://www.nyrr.org/media-center/press-release/2024_1104_tcsnycmbythenumbers
https://press.strava.com/articles/strava-releases-year-in-sport-report
https://press.strava.com/articles/strava-releases-annual-year-in-sport-trend
Why everyone you know is running a marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_eBECX8qWQ&ab_channel=GöranWinblad
https://open.spotify.com/episode/11NwWyVUrpfKTNs6QZsJsI?si=82AxlIg_QBGgPelIthVshQ

Aug 20, 2025
Aug 20, 2025
29 min
Summary
In this episode of Trial and Error, the hosts delve into the complexities of female rivalry, using the story of Cheryl as a case study. They explore the psychological and sociological aspects of why women often compete for social acceptance and how this manifests in relationships. The discussion touches on the Mean Girls Syndrome, the nature of enmity, and the dynamics of friendships, ultimately concluding that while rivalry can be challenging, it is also a natural part of social interactions among women.
Takeaways
The idea of rivalry among women is deeply rooted in social dynamics.
Cheryl's story illustrates the complexities of female friendships.
Indirect aggression is a common form of bullying among women.
The Mean Girls Syndrome highlights relational aggression in social settings.
Understanding rivalry can lead to better relationships among women.
Social circles can influence feelings of rivalry and competition.
It's important to surround yourself with supportive people.

Aug 13, 2025
Aug 13, 2025
27 min
Summary
In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, hosts Ale and LJ delve into the psychological phenomenon known as Impostor Syndrome. They explore its origins, societal influences, and personal experiences, discussing how it affects high achievers, particularly women. The conversation highlights the impact of social media on self-perception, the challenges faced in the workplace, and the importance of recognizing one's achievements. They also touch on the Dunning-Kruger effect and how to leverage Impostor Syndrome for personal growth, emphasizing the need to celebrate small wins and maintain a balanced perspective on success.
Takeaways
Impostor Syndrome affects many high achievers, especially women.
Societal expectations play a significant role in self-perception.
Social media can exacerbate feelings of inadequacy.
Workplace experiences can trigger Impostor Syndrome.
It's important to distinguish between feeling like an imposter and actual competence.
The Dunning-Kruger effect illustrates the relationship between confidence and knowledge.
Impostor Syndrome can motivate individuals to improve their skills.
Celebrating small wins can help combat feelings of inadequacy.
Self-reflection is key to understanding one's achievements.
Maintaining a sense of humor about oneself is essential.
Resources:
https://www.paulineroseclance.com/pdf/ip_high_achieving_women.pdf; https://www.oed.com/dictionary/impostor-syndrome_n?tl=true; https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/dunning-kruger-effect

Aug 6, 2025
Aug 6, 2025
40 min
In this episode of the Trial & Error & Error Podcast, Ale and LJ explore the complexities of love and relationships, discussing the importance of self-awareness, communication, and understanding what makes a good partner. They delve into the four essential questions to consider when seeking a partner, the significance of self-regulation versus co-regulation in relationships, and the role of gut instincts in dating. The conversation also touches on the challenges of modern dating, the importance of building a life together, and the lessons learned from past relationships.
Takeaways
Self-awareness is crucial before seeking a partner.
Self-regulation is key in maintaining healthy relationships.
Your partner should enhance your life, not complete it.
Trust your gut instincts when dating.
Communication is vital for resolving conflicts in relationships.
Embrace past relationships as learning experiences.
Building a life with someone is a long-term commitment.
You should never change your core values for someone else.
Resources:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3UNQp9X0GKyNHPPAyj7a1d?si=5494c0d390ed4c14;

Jul 30, 2025
Jul 30, 2025
33 min
In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, Ale and LJ dive into the ultimate millennial crisis: making friends in your late 20s. Join them as they share personal stories, research insights, and practical tips on navigating friendships in adulthood. From the challenges of relocating and career shifts to the impact of social media and remote work, discover how to foster meaningful connections in a world that often feels disconnected. Tune in for a candid conversation filled with humor, vulnerability, and the occasional life lesson. Don't miss out on this relatable and insightful discussion!
Takeaways
Making friends in adulthood is challenging due to life changes.
The loneliness epidemic is affecting many adults today.
Social media can create a facade of happiness, masking loneliness.
Initiative is crucial in forming new friendships as an adult.
Friendship requires effort, similar to dating.
Vulnerability can help deepen connections with others.
Not everyone you meet will become a friend, and that's okay.
It's important to find people who resonate with your personality.
Friendship dynamics change as people prioritize different life paths.
The girls bathroom is a metaphor for supportive friendships.
Resources:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090527111907.htm; https://www.americansurveycenter.org/research/the-state-of-american-friendship-change-challenges-and-loss/;

Jul 30, 2025
Jul 30, 2025
29 min
In this episode of Trial and Error, hosts Ale and LJ explore the multifaceted concept of home. From personal anecdotes of moving across continents to cultural insights on migration, they delve into what it truly means to find and define home. With stories from Habitat for Humanity and reflections on their own journeys, they discuss how home can be both a physical place and a feeling tied to people and experiences. Tune in for a heartfelt conversation that resonates with anyone who has ever pondered the meaning of home.
Takeaways
Home is a subjective concept that varies for each individual.
Migration statistics show that a significant portion of the population is moving to new countries.
Personal experiences shape our understanding of home.
Home can be defined by relationships and the people we surround ourselves with.
Cultural transitions can make the idea of home more complex.
The definition of home can evolve over time as life circumstances change.
Home is not just a physical space but also an emotional one.
Creating a sense of home in a new place requires effort and intention.
Having friends in different places can enrich the concept of home.
Home can be wherever you feel comfortable and happy.
Resources:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/home; https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=home&page=1; https://worldmigrationreport.iom.int/msite/wmr-2024-interactive/; https://www.habitat.org/stories/what-does-home-mean-to-you; https://meaningofhome.ca/entries/70714?; https://meaningofhome.ca/entries/province;

Jul 30, 2025
Jul 30, 2025
38 min
Welcome to the debut episode of "Trial and Error... and Error!" Join Ale and LJ, two work besties, as they spill the tea and share the chaos of life, love, and everything in between. In this episode, get to know the hosts as they introduce themselves and the theme of their podcast. From their journey to Austria to their aspirations of becoming memes, Ale and LJ keep it real and hilarious. Grab a glass of wine and dive into their world of candid conversations and fun games. Don't miss out on the laughter and insights as they embark on this exciting podcasting adventure!

Jul 23, 2025
Jul 23, 2025
2 min
We're just work besties trying to start a podcast... but first, we have to figure out how to actually record one. This blooper has mic confusion, setting disasters, and the kind of banter that’ll make you feel like you're right there with us (struggling). It’s messy, it’s real, it’s SO us. 🎧✨







