Trial & Error & Error Podcast
Two work besties thriving in their late 20s, (or attempting to). Relationships, work, family, society expectations... And the return of Lindsay Lohan. You know what they say: ”3rd time’s the charm!” Our goal is to make ”Fetch” happen.
Episodes

Nov 19, 2025
Nov 19, 2025
33 min
Summary
In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, the hosts explore the phenomenon of 'therapy speak'—the rise of psychological language in everyday conversations, especially post-COVID. They discuss how terms like 'boundaries', 'toxic', and 'narcissist' have become commonplace, often losing their original meaning. The conversation delves into the potential misuse of these terms, particularly in weaponizing therapy language to control or silence others. The hosts emphasize the importance of self-awareness and responsible communication, urging listeners to reflect on their use of therapy language and its impact on relationships.
Takeaways
Therapy speak has become mainstream since COVID.
Terms like 'boundaries' and 'toxic' can lose meaning when overused.
Weaponizing therapy language can harm relationships.
Real connection requires vulnerability, not just buzzwords.
Social media amplifies the use of therapy terms.
Misusing mental health terms can minimize real issues.
Understanding toxicity requires context and self-reflection.
Therapy language should facilitate understanding, not arguments.
Self-awareness is key in using therapy speak responsibly.
Therapy is about personal growth, not just self-indulgence.
Resources:
‘That’s triggering!’ Is therapy-speak changing the way we talk about ourselves?
When ‘Therapy Speak’ Does More Harm Than Good
The Rise of Therapy-Speak

Nov 12, 2025
Nov 12, 2025
34 min
Summary
In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, hosts Ale and LJ explore the themes of nostalgia, personal evolution, and the complexities of identity as they reflect on their past selves. They discuss the emotional landscape of nostalgia, the impact of life choices, and the balance between appreciating who we were and embracing who we are becoming. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing the gifts of personal growth while acknowledging the challenges of change.
Takeaways
We often miss the versions of ourselves that were more carefree.
Nostalgia can bring both joy and sadness.
Life choices significantly shape our identities.
The Polyanna effect influences how we remember the past.
The future is uncertain, just as the past was.
Nostalgia is common in our 20s due to many life changes.
We can't go back to who we used to be.
Embracing change is essential for personal growth.
Our past selves are part of our current identity.
Change should be viewed as an exciting journey.

Nov 5, 2025
Nov 5, 2025
36 min
Summary
In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, hosts Ale and LJ explore the complexities of financial literacy, particularly focusing on the decision to rent or buy property. They discuss the concept of financial avoidance, the current housing market landscape, and the various costs associated with home ownership. The conversation delves into the psychological aspects of owning a home, personal perspectives on property, and how generational differences shape views on success and financial stability. Ultimately, they emphasize the importance of making informed decisions that align with individual life goals rather than societal expectations.
Takeaways
Financial avoidance is common among young adults.
Understanding money is crucial in today's economy.
Home ownership rates vary significantly by country.
Renting can sometimes be more financially sound than buying.
Owning a home comes with hidden costs beyond the mortgage.
Psychological comfort can be a reason to buy a home.
Success in housing is being redefined by younger generations.
Investing in oneself can be as valuable as property investment.
The decision to buy should align with personal life goals.
Flexibility in living arrangements is increasingly important.
Resources:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7BTd6244z2rItHIV2yGDY4?si=dd1e757b5ca6456d
https://www.statista.com/statistics/246355/home-ownership-rate-in-europe/

Oct 29, 2025
Oct 29, 2025
28 min
Summary
In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, hosts LJ and Ale delve into the complexities of being the 'bigger person' in various relationships. They explore the emotional toll, societal expectations, and personal identity conflicts that arise from this role. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they discuss the pressures of always being the one to forgive and understand, and how this can lead to resentment and exhaustion. The conversation also touches on coping strategies to redefine what it means to be the bigger person, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries and recognizing one's own worth.
Takeaways
Being the bigger person often feels one-sided and exhausting.
There is a societal expectation for certain individuals to always be the bigger person.
Emotional exhaustion can result from constantly being the one to forgive.
The concept of being the bigger person can lead to identity conflicts.
It's important to acknowledge your efforts privately, even if others don't.
Setting boundaries is crucial to maintaining emotional health.
Not every conflict deserves your energy; choose your battles wisely.
Forgiveness doesn't mean forgetting; it's about adjusting expectations.
The pressure to be the bigger person can stem from childhood experiences.
Coping strategies can help redefine what being the bigger person means.

Oct 22, 2025
Oct 22, 2025
39 min
Summary
In this episode of the Trial and Error Podcast, hosts Ale and LJ delve into the world of romance literature, exploring various love tropes, the appeal of romance media, and its cultural significance. They discuss how romance novels serve as a form of escapism and emotional exploration, particularly for women, and highlight the importance of female representation in the genre. The conversation also touches on the impact of romance on feminism and the misconceptions surrounding its status in literature. Throughout the episode, they share personal anecdotes, book recommendations, and insights into the evolving perceptions of romance in society.
Takeaways
Romance is often dismissed as a guilty pleasure, but it has significant cultural value.
Romance media provides escapism from daily responsibilities and emotional exploration.
Female protagonists in romance novels empower women and validate their experiences.
The romance genre is one of the largest in publishing, contributing significantly to adult fiction growth.
Criticism of romance novels often stems from internalized misogyny and societal biases.
Romance novels can serve as a feminist blueprint for women's lives and aspirations.
Cultural perspectives on romance vary, influencing how love is portrayed in media.
The hosts emphasize the importance of female representation in romance literature.
Romance stories can help women see themselves as worthy of love and respect.
Resources:
Karandashev, V. (2015). A Cultural Perspective on Romantic Love. Online Readings in Psychology and Culture, 5(4). https://doi.org/10.9707/2307-0919.1135; Holland, Kiersten, "A Foray into Love: Feminism in the Romance Novel" (2024). Honors College Theses. 200. https://digitalcommons.murraystate.edu/honorstheses/200; https://www.buzzfeed.com/marycolussi/book-tropes-readers-love-and-hate.
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Oct 15, 2025
Oct 15, 2025
36 min
That post-vacation slump? We’ve all been there — the overflowing inbox, the endless catch-ups, and that creeping thought: Was my holiday even worth it?
In this episode, we unpack what science says about the effects of vacation and why that relaxed glow fades so fast. From stress recovery and sleep quality to the emotional chaos of your first week back, we explore how to make the return to work smoother—for your productivity and your peace of mind.
We’ll talk about:
Why vacation benefits disappear so quickly
The psychology of re-entry and workplace overwhelm
How different types of workers recover (or don’t)
Practical tips for easing back and keeping that “vacation feeling” alive
What workplaces can do to make coming back less painful
So grab your coffee, open that inbox (slowly), and join us as we figure out how to make Back to the Office a little less brutal — and maybe even restorative.
Takeaways:
Vacations do boost your mood and energy — just not for long.
Quality rest > length of vacation. Sleep is your real superpower.
The “fade-out effect” is real — recovery fades fast once work starts.
Feeling stressed or unmotivated after vacation? Totally normal.
Ease in: prioritize, pace yourself, and reconnect with your team.
Workaholics struggle most — they need mini-breaks built in year-round.
Keep the vacation vibe alive: walks, hobbies, good sleep.
Workplaces can help — lighter first weeks, smarter email rules.
Try shorter, more frequent breaks instead of one big getaway.
Real recovery isn’t a break — it’s a lifestyle.
Resources:
de Bloom, J., Geurts, S.A.E. & Kompier, M.A.J. Vacation (after-) effects on employee health and well-being, and the role of vacation activities, experiences and sleep. J Happiness Stud 14, 613–633 (2013). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10902-012-9345-3; Sousa, C., & Gonçalves, G. (2019). Back to work bang! Difficulties, emotions and adjustment strategies when returning to work after a vacation. The International Journal of Human Resource Management, 32(10), 2242–2263. https://doi.org/10.1080/09585192.2019.1602784; de Bloom J., Radstaak M., and Geurts S. (2014), Vacation Effects on Behaviour, Cognition and Emotions of Compulsive and Non-compulsive Workers: Do Obsessive Workers Go ‘Cold Turkey’?, Stress Health, 30, 232–243, doi: 10.1002/smi.2600; We Continue to Recover Through Vacation! Franziska Speth, Johannes Wendsche, and Jürgen Wegge, European Psychologist 2023 28:4, 274-287, https://econtent.hogrefe.com/doi/abs/10.1027/1016-9040/a000518?journalCode=epp; https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2023/09/07/how-to-manage-being-back-to-work-after-summers-over/.

Oct 8, 2025
Oct 8, 2025
36 min
Summary
In this episode, LJ shares her exhilarating experience attending the Little Simz concert, detailing the anticipation leading up to the event, the vibrant atmosphere, and the emotional connection they felt during the performance. They discuss the artist's background, the setlist, and the unique engagement with the audience, culminating in a heartfelt reflection on the impact of live music.
Takeaways
Easily one of LJ's top three concerts of all time.
The concert atmosphere was electric and intimate.
Little Simz' performance was a blend of genres.
The setlist was perfectly curated, flowing seamlessly.
Audience engagement was a highlight of the concert.
Emotional moments were prevalent throughout the show.
The artist's background added depth to the experience.
Concerts can evoke unexpected emotional responses.
Smaller venues create a more personal connection.
Live music experiences are irreplaceable and transformative.

Oct 1, 2025
Oct 1, 2025
37 min
Summary
In this episode, the hosts discuss the realities of living together with a partner, exploring the misconceptions and challenges that arise in cohabitation. They share personal experiences, the importance of communication, and how to maintain romance amidst daily routines. The conversation also touches on the negotiation of responsibilities and the sweet moments that make living together special.
Takeaways
The fantasy of living together often differs from reality.
Communication is key in navigating shared responsibilities.
It's common for couples to face similar challenges in cohabitation.
Maintaining romance requires conscious effort even when living together.
Living with a partner can reveal compatibility strengths and weaknesses.
Small annoyances can lead to larger discussions about compatibility.
Creating a cleaning schedule can help manage household tasks.
Date nights are essential to keep the relationship exciting.
Understanding each other's pet peeves can prevent conflicts.
Living together can deepen the bond and create a unique shared life.

Sep 24, 2025
Sep 24, 2025
37 min
Summary
In this episode, the hosts explore the multifaceted experience of clubbing in your late 20s, discussing the cost-benefit analysis of going out, the importance of music and venue, the rising costs associated with clubbing, and the changing demographics of club-goers. They also touch on safety, consent, and etiquette in clubs, as well as trends in alcohol consumption among younger generations. The conversation wraps up with personal reflections on the benefits of clubbing and the social dynamics involved, ultimately encouraging listeners to evaluate their own experiences and choices regarding nightlife.
Takeaways
Clubbing in your late 20s involves a complex cost-benefit analysis.
Music and the DJ play a crucial role in the clubbing experience.
Costs of clubbing have significantly increased due to inflation.
Safety and consent are critical discussions in the clubbing scene.
There is a decline in alcohol consumption among younger crowds.
Clubbing can provide social interaction and escapism.
Personal experiences and reflections shape one's view on clubbing.
It's important to evaluate your own costs and benefits when deciding to go out.

Sep 17, 2025
Sep 17, 2025
33 min
Summary
In this episode of the Trial and Error and Error Podcast, hosts LJ and Ale explore the evolving concept of marriage in modern society. They discuss the decline in marriage rates, the rise of cohabitation, and the changing roles of gender in marriage decisions. The conversation delves into cultural perspectives, legal aspects, and the implications of single parenthood and divorce. Ultimately, they conclude that while marriage may be less common, the commitment to relationships remains significant, albeit redefined.
Takeaways
Marriage rates are declining globally, with more people opting for cohabitation.
Cohabitation is often viewed as a trial run for marriage.
People are marrying later in life compared to previous generations.
The share of women getting married has decreased slightly, while men are marrying less frequently.
Single parenting is becoming more common, influencing marriage decisions.
Divorce rates are rising, but not as dramatically as often perceived.
Marriage is evolving into a personal commitment rather than a societal expectation.
Financial stability is a significant factor in marriage decisions today.
Cultural perspectives on marriage vary widely across different regions.
The future of marriage may involve less emphasis on the legal contract and more on personal commitment.
Resources:
https://ourworldindata.org/marriages-and-divorces
https://www.vox.com/even-better/24127335/living-together-cohabitation-before-marriage-relationship-milestones







